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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                       Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                        
                        November 4, 2013                                                                                        
                           9:31 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                               
 Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                
 Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                
 Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                    
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator John Coghill, Chair                                                                                                    
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Vice Chair                                                                                              
 Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
 Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:   INFORMATIONAL   HEARING   ON    SB   64   -   OMNIBUS                                                               
CRIME/CORRECTIONS BILL                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HUTCHISON, Staff                                                                                                           
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Participated  in the  informational hearing                                                             
on SB 64 and presented a PowerPoint overview.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RONALD TAYLOR, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Office of the Commissioner - Anchorage                                                                                          
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BILLY HOUSER, Programs Administrator                                                                                            
Division of Probation and Parole                                                                                                
Department of Corrections                                                                                                       
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAT VENTAGEN, Chief Clinical Officer                                                                                            
Akeela                                                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KELVIN LEE, President                                                                                                           
New Life Development Inc. (NLDI)                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE                                                                                                                    
Partners for Progress                                                                                                           
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BILL MICKELSON                                                                                                                  
Law Enforcement                                                                                                                 
South Dakota                                                                                                                    
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TOM BUTLER, Colonel                                                                                                             
Montana Highway Patrol                                                                                                          
Montana                                                                                                                         
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS JOHNSON, Program Director                                                                                                
Alaska Pre-Trial Services                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS MOODY, Deputy Public Defender                                                                                           
Criminal Division                                                                                                               
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Public Defender Agency                                                                                                          
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY LEE                                                                                                                     
Tanana Chiefs Conference (TCC)                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Testified  and  answered questions  during                                                             
discussion of SB 64.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:31:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  JOHN COGHILL  called the  joint meeting  of the  House and                                                             
Senate  Judiciary  Standing  Committees  to order  at  9:31  a.m.                                                               
Senators  Coghill,   McGuire,  and  Dyson,   and  Representatives                                                               
Keller, Millett,  Pruitt, Gruenberg,  and LeDoux were  present at                                                               
the call to order.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Overview: Informational Hearing on SB 64 - Omnibus                                                                   
                     Crime/Corrections Bill                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:33:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
an  informational hearing  on SB  64 -  Omnibus Crime/Corrections                                                               
Bill.  [In front of the committee was CSSB 64(STA)]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL explained  that the goal was to  discuss its budget                                                               
projections,  incarceration  and alternatives  to  incarceration,                                                               
reentry  issues,  and  community  supervision.   He  offered  his                                                               
intent for  a forthcoming proposed  committee substitute  (CS) to                                                               
address the points  raised in this meeting, with  an objective to                                                               
decrease  costs while  maintaining the  high priority  for public                                                               
safety and respect for individuals.   Referring to the provisions                                                               
of the  proposed bill that  would establish an  Alaska Sentencing                                                               
Commission, he offered his understanding  that, although one such                                                               
commission had  been statutorily established in  the 1990s, there                                                               
would be differences with this commission.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:38:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAD  HUTCHISON,  Staff,  Senator   John  Coghill,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  directed attention  to CSSB  64(STA), and  declared                                                               
that the proposed bill was  a joint, bi-partisan effort initiated                                                               
by  Senators Ellis  and Coghill,  with contributions  by Senators                                                               
Dyson,  Myers,   and  French.     Referring  to   the  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation  titled "Presentation  For  CS For  Senate Bill  No.                                                               
64(STA)," he listed the goals  to include:  improvement of public                                                               
safety, intelligent  review of Alaska's criminal  justice system,                                                               
reduction of recidivism rates, and  reduction of government costs                                                               
(slide  3).   He  indicated  the three  major  provisions of  the                                                               
proposed bill,  slide 4, "What  does SB 64  do?":  One,  it would                                                               
establish an  Alaska Sentencing Commission to  review and analyze                                                               
Alaska's sentencing laws, procedures,  and statistics in order to                                                               
reduce costs and increase the  effectiveness of Alaska's criminal                                                               
justice system;   Two, it would amend the  statutes pertaining to                                                               
limited driver's  licenses in order  to assist  chronic offenders                                                               
to the  crimes of driving  under the influence (DUI)  and refusal                                                               
to submit to  a chemical test, via the use  of therapeutic courts                                                               
and treatment;   and, three, it  would create new duties  for the                                                               
Department of Corrections (DOC) and  the State Board of Parole to                                                               
establish an  alcohol and drug-testing program  that provided for                                                               
prompt  response to  probation/parole violations.   Referring  to                                                               
slide 7,  "Section 1,"  he explained that  this would  refine the                                                               
conditions  for  qualification of  credit  for  time spent  in  a                                                               
treatment program against a sentence of imprisonment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG, stating that  he supported the proposed                                                               
change, offered his understanding that  Section 1 would reverse a                                                               
decision by  the Alaska Court  of Appeals.   He relayed  that the                                                               
House  Judiciary Standing  Committee (HJUD)  had discussed  this,                                                               
and that it was an important addition to the proposed bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:43:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  expressed his  agreement  for  the importance  of                                                               
Section 1.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  noted that  Section  1  attempted to  allow  both                                                               
freedom and flexibility within the accountability.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON went  on to  explain that  Section 2  of the  bill                                                               
addressed the  establishment of an Alaska  Sentencing Commission,                                                               
and  that its  membership  makeup would  include  members of  the                                                               
House  and  Senate,  active  or   retired  judges  and  justices,                                                               
representatives  of  the  Native  community,  representatives  of                                                               
certain   departments,   agencies,   and   offices   within   the                                                               
administration, and a victims' rights advocate, slide 8.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL added  that  the policy  questions  of whether  to                                                               
provide  for  an executive  director  and  whether to  include  a                                                               
private-sector  attorney  in  the  proposed  list  of  commission                                                               
members were still to be discussed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON, moving  to slide 9, "Section  2 (Continued)", said                                                               
that the  proposed Alaska  Sentencing Commission  should evaluate                                                               
and make recommendations to improve  the criminal justice system,                                                               
and   should  consider   statutes,   sentencing  practices,   and                                                               
crime/incarceration  rates   to  make  recommendations.     These                                                               
recommendations  should be  based on  several factors,  including                                                               
seriousness, prior  criminal history, and resources  available to                                                               
the  agencies.   Pointing to  slide 10,  he noted  that a  change                                                               
incorporated  into  CSSB 64(STA)  was  that  the proposed  Alaska                                                               
Sentencing  Commission  be  established  in  the  Office  of  the                                                               
Governor, rather than in the  Alaska Court System (ACS), so there                                                               
would not  be any  perceived bias  should the  court be  asked to                                                               
rule on  recommendations made  by the  commission.   He indicated                                                               
that  the  aforementioned  previous   commission  had  also  been                                                               
established in the Office of the Governor.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  recollected earlier discussion that,  as the court                                                               
system was  "loathe to make  policy calls," the  commission would                                                               
better serve  in the  "policy making  arena than  it does  in the                                                               
judicial."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG, speaking  on  behalf  of the  minority                                                               
membership of the joint committee,  referred to the provisions of                                                               
the  bill addressing  the appointment  of legislative  members to                                                               
the proposed commission,  and suggested that in order  to avoid a                                                               
conflict  of  interest, those  provisions  be  amended such  that                                                               
appointments of  legislators from the minority  caucuses shall be                                                               
made by the minority leaders.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL acknowledged  that  this point  should be  further                                                               
discussed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT asked  whether there  was precedence  for                                                               
any other committee appointments by the minority leader.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX questioned  whether the  list of  proposed                                                               
commission members should be amended  to include a representative                                                               
from rural Alaska, given that  the representative from the Alaska                                                               
Native community may not necessarily live in rural Alaska.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  acknowledged the  point,  and  observed that  the                                                               
issue of  who would appoint such  a member would also  need to be                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  suggested  that  the  list  of  proposed                                                               
commission members  be further amended  to include  "a substance-                                                               
abuse expert,"  given the prevalence of  substance-abuse problems                                                               
among offenders.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL, noting  that both the Department  of Public Safety                                                               
and Department  of Health and  Social Services  were represented,                                                               
acknowledged that point as well.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON, opining  that the  committee  could become  quite                                                               
large  and   unwieldy,  suggested  that  the   list  of  proposed                                                               
commission  members  be  amended   to  include  someone  who  had                                                               
significant criminal  history, had  been incarcerated  in Alaska,                                                               
and had successfully reintegrated into society.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL acknowledged that suggestion.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:52:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON,  directing attention  back to slide  10, explained                                                               
that other  changes incorporated into  Section 2 of  CSSB 64(STA)                                                               
included the addition  of a victims' rights advocate  to the list                                                               
of proposed  commission members  and a  conforming change  to the                                                               
provision stipulating  that the commission should  now consist of                                                               
17 members.   There was  also addition  of the phrase  "active or                                                               
retired" to the  provisions listing the justices  and judges that                                                               
could be designated  as members.  Referencing slide  11, he noted                                                               
a change to  now include a representative member  from the Alaska                                                               
Native  community,  rather than  the  executive  director of  the                                                               
Alaska  Native  Justice  Center   or  his/her  designee,  thereby                                                               
widening  the pool  from  which that  member may  be  drawn.   He                                                               
listed  a change  such that  the  member from  the Department  of                                                               
Health  and Social  Services (DHSS)  shall be  designated by  the                                                               
commissioner or deputy commissioner,  rather than the director of                                                               
the  Division of  Juvenile Justice  or  a designated  supervising                                                               
regional probation officer.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX questioned  whether there  were any  over-                                                               
represented  incarcerated populations  other than  Alaska Natives                                                               
that ought  to be represented  on the proposed  Alaska Sentencing                                                               
Commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL ventured that it  was necessary to address the fact                                                               
that Alaska  Natives were  over-represented in  Alaska's prisons,                                                               
and  he  questioned whether  the  Department  of Corrections  had                                                               
information for  other groups which were  over-represented in the                                                               
prisons.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON reported  on  the changes  for  a victims'  rights                                                               
advocate  and  the  Alaska  Native   community  member:    to  be                                                               
appointed by  the governor,  shall serve at  the pleasure  of the                                                               
governor,  and may  be reappointed.   This  was deemed  necessary                                                               
because  the  proposed  Alaska  Sentencing  Commission  would  be                                                               
established in the Office of the  Governor; and the Office of the                                                               
Governor, rather  than the Alaska  Judicial Council  (AJC), shall                                                               
provide  staff   and  administrative  support  to   the  proposed                                                               
commission.   He noted that  there was still some  debate whether                                                               
the  AJC should  instead be  the entity  that provided  staff and                                                               
administrative support to the proposed commission.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:58:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  expressed  agreement  that the  AJC  already  did                                                               
research   analysis  matching   the   intent   of  the   proposed                                                               
commission.    Moving on  to  slide  12,  he listed  the  changes                                                               
recommended by  various groups, which  included a change  of name                                                               
to "Alaska Criminal Justice Commission,"  which would broaden the                                                               
scope of the  commission to more accurately  reflect its mission.                                                               
He  spoke of  another suggested  change that,  instead of  deputy                                                               
commissioners there be designees from the various departments.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:59:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  inquired as  to  the  theory behind  the                                                               
change from  deputy commissioner  to designee, and  she expressed                                                               
her discomfort with this recommendation.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  replied that  this  would  broaden the  scope  of                                                               
experience for those who could serve on the commission.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT expressed  her  concern  that this  would                                                               
result in a lower level involvement.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:00:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  directed attention  to  the  list of  recommended                                                               
changes  for  membership on  slide  13,  "Section 2  -  Potential                                                               
Policy  Calls  (Continued)," noting  that  it  now included  more                                                               
designees among its proposed 17 members.   Moving on to slide 14,                                                               
he commented that  AJC already had staff  with comparable duties,                                                               
which would allow  for a relatively smooth transition.   He noted                                                               
the  unresolved  question  on  slide  15,  whether  an  Executive                                                               
Director should  have oversight for  the commission.   He pointed                                                               
out  that, although  there would  be  more accountability,  there                                                               
could also be a potentially larger fiscal note.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL shared  that his  staff had  created a  comparison                                                               
sheet for the various duties of other commissions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:02:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG, referring  to  slide  15 which  stated                                                               
that  the 21  similar commissions  in the  United States  all had                                                               
Executive Directors,  asked what  these commissions did  in order                                                               
to necessitate an Executive Director.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL   expressed  his  agreement   with  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg,  and  pointed  out   that  some  commissions  had  the                                                               
authority  to  make regulations,  in  contrast  to this  proposed                                                               
commission.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:03:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG, observing  that the proposed commission                                                               
would primarily  be making  recommendations, asked  if regulatory                                                               
power was only included with an executive function.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL   replied  that  the   purpose  of   the  proposed                                                               
commission was solely for recommendations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL, in  response to  a  question from  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg,  offered to  share the  authority  granted to  various                                                               
commissions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:05:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  directed attention  to  slide  16, "Sunset?"  and                                                               
reported that  three, five,  and seven  year thresholds  had been                                                               
discussed,  noting  that the  previous  commission  had been  for                                                               
three years.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:05:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL offered his belief  that a commission needed enough                                                               
time to  become effective,  and to study  the effects  of current                                                               
practices.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:06:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT offered  her belief  that the  commission                                                               
needed  independence,  noting  her concern  with  the  commission                                                               
being housed within the AJC.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:07:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  referenced  slide  17, which  explained  why  the                                                               
commission was housed  in the Office of the Governor.   It listed                                                               
the potential problems  of establishment by the  court system, as                                                               
it   could  include   a  perception   for  potential   bias  with                                                               
recommendations coming from the court system.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON moved on to  slide 18, "Section 3," which discussed                                                               
the revocation of a license for a  DUI or a refusal.  He reported                                                               
that the  intent of Section  3 was  to get treatment  for chronic                                                               
offenders, thereby lowering the cost  to the state and the burden                                                               
to society,  while allowing the  offenders to return to  a normal                                                               
operating mode.  He explained  that a license revocation could be                                                               
terminated by  the courts upon  successful completion of  a court                                                               
ordered treatment program, good  behavior, and successful driving                                                               
with a limited  license for a minimum period of  time.  He listed                                                               
various  times of  revocation, depending  on  offense, slide  19.                                                               
Directing attention  to slide  20, "OR...,"  he relayed  that the                                                               
intent  of  the   proposed  bill  was  for  a   person,  who  had                                                               
successfully  completed a  court ordered  treatment program  with                                                               
good  behavior, and  had successfully  driven  under the  limited                                                               
license for a  minimum period of time, would  expedite the return                                                               
of driver licenses after felony DUI's  or refusals.  Moving on to                                                               
slide  21, "What  does that  mean?",  he offered  an example  for                                                               
Section  3  of the  proposed  bill,  and  described a  third  DUI                                                               
offense.   He explained  that this  was "designed  to incentivize                                                               
chronic  DUI  offenders  to  face  their  alcohol  problems"  and                                                               
offered a strong  incentive for a person to stay  clean and sober                                                               
and become a  productive member of society,  while reducing costs                                                               
to the state's criminal justice system.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:11:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON  reported on the changes  made to Section 3  of the                                                               
proposed  bill by  the Senate  State  Affairs Standing  Committee                                                               
(SSTA), slide 22.  He detailed  that page 6, lines 13-17, changed                                                               
the  conditions to  terminate  a license  revocation  for DUI  or                                                               
refusal to clarify that a  person needed to successfully complete                                                               
a  court  ordered treatment  program,  could  not be  charged  or                                                               
convicted of  a DUI or  refusal since completion of  the program,                                                               
and must have successfully driven  with a limited license for the                                                               
minimum period.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:11:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON,  addressing  slide   23,  "Section  4  -  Limited                                                               
Licenses,"  detailed  that a  limited  license  could be  granted                                                               
after a DUI  or a refusal if the person  participated in a court-                                                               
ordered  treatment  program,  provided proof  of  insurance,  and                                                               
agreed to  be free  from drugs  and alcohol and  pay the  cost of                                                               
testing for these substances.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:12:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  shared that the conditional  license program could                                                               
include wearing an ankle monitor  or testing twice daily for drug                                                               
and alcohol,  in order to increase  individual accountability and                                                               
public safety.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:13:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON opined that there  should be immediate consequences                                                               
for charge  or conviction of DUI  or refusal, or a  positive test                                                               
for drugs  or alcohol.   He  reported on  slide 24,  "Section 4,"                                                               
which  listed other  changes made  to  the proposed  bill by  the                                                               
Senate State Affairs  Standing Committee (SSTA).   He pointed out                                                               
that  page 6,  lines  26-31, and  page 7,  lines  4-6 and  12-13,                                                               
changed  the  conditions for  granting  a  limited license.    He                                                               
explained  the new  timeframes,  and the  requirement to  abstain                                                               
from  alcohol and  drug use  while also  paying for  the cost  of                                                               
testing  for these  substances.   He declared  that any  positive                                                               
test for  these substances  would result  in the  limited license                                                               
being revoked.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:14:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  presented Section  5  of  the proposed  bill  and                                                               
explained the procedure if a person  needed to plead guilty or no                                                               
contest, slide  25, which included  modification of  the language                                                               
to  include  an  ability  by   the  court  to  reduce  the  fine,                                                               
imprisonment,  or  license  revocation.     Reviewing  slide  26,                                                               
"Sections 6 & 7," he addressed  the issue of dealing with DUI and                                                               
refusal  for  felons,  noting  that the  court  may  restore  the                                                               
driver's  license   if  there  was   good  behavior   and  social                                                               
responsibility  for 10  years, and  the court  shall restore  the                                                               
license  if   there  has  been  good   behavior  and  financially                                                               
responsibility while successfully driving  with a limited license                                                               
for five years.   He reported on the changes in  Section 6 of the                                                               
proposed bill, slide 27.  On  page 8, lines 11-27 of the proposed                                                               
bill,  the felony  DUI  was  addressed, and  he  listed when  the                                                               
department may  restore and shall  restore the  driver's license,                                                               
clarifying  that a  person cannot  have  had a  conviction for  a                                                               
criminal offense since the license was revoked.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:16:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  offered his belief  that the  aim was to  create a                                                               
high degree of accountability while  offering tools for the court                                                               
to reward good behavior and increase public safety.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:16:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked if  there  was  a requirement  for                                                               
ignition  interlock devices  during  the 5  year limited  license                                                               
period.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL surmised  that this  would  be an  option for  the                                                               
courts.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON, in response to  Representative Millet, stated that                                                               
currently it was not included in the proposed bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:17:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  questioned   whether  the  proposed  bill                                                               
included a provision for restitution to the victim.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL   expressed  his  agreement  with   the  need  for                                                               
restitution, and accountability for its collection.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:18:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON discussed  slide  28, "Section  7  - Changes  from                                                               
State Affairs," and detailed that  these changes paralleled those                                                               
changes in  Section 6  addressing Felony Refusal.   Moving  on to                                                               
slide  29, "Sections  8  &  9," he  relayed  that these  sections                                                               
directed  the  Commissioner and  the  Parole  Board to  establish                                                               
programs  for probationers  and  parolees  which included  random                                                               
drug  testing,  required  a  petition  to  revoke  if  there  was                                                               
violation, and allowed  the courts to receive prompt  notice of a                                                               
violation and to take action as necessary.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON explained  slide 31, reporting that Sections  8 & 9                                                               
were  modeled  after  the Probation  Accountability  and  Certain                                                               
Enforcement (PACE)  program in Anchorage.   He quoted  from Judge                                                               
Steven  Alm in  Hawaii, slide  30:   "I thought  about how  I was                                                               
raised and how I raise my kids.   Tell 'em what the rules are and                                                               
then  if  there's  misbehavior you  give  them  the  consequences                                                               
immediately."   He pointed  out that this  was the  basic premise                                                               
for  the  PACE  program,  as  it  responded  immediately  to  bad                                                               
behavior.  The PACE program  would identify probationers who were                                                               
likely to violate their conditions  of probation, and notify them                                                               
that any  violations had consequences.   Frequent randomized drug                                                               
testing  would be  required, and  there would  be swift,  certain                                                               
terms of incarceration for any violations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HUTCHISON  noted that  slide  32  addressed the  changes  in                                                               
Section  8.    These  changes   clarified  the  language  that  a                                                               
probation officer would file a  petition to revoke probation if a                                                               
probationer failed to appear for  an appointment, tested positive                                                               
for controlled  substances or  alcohol, or  failed to  follow any                                                               
court  ordered conditions  of probation.    Explaining slide  33,                                                               
"Changes  in  Section  9,"  he pointed  out  that  this  included                                                               
similar clarifying language  for the parole board.   He mentioned                                                               
that there were  some potential policy calls for Sections  8 & 9,                                                               
slide  34,  which  could  include   a  change  of  language  from                                                               
"urinalysis" to "drug and/or alcohol testing."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. HUTCHISON  referenced slide  35, "Sections  10 -  12," noting                                                               
that these  discussed applicability  and changes, and  that there                                                               
were  not any  substantive changes  to the  proposed bill  by the                                                               
SSTA.  He shared that the  act would take effect immediately, and                                                               
that the commission should meet for  the first time no later than                                                               
September 30, 2014, and report no later than February 1, 2016.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:24:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:24 a.m. to 10:37 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:37:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL brought the committee back to order.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked  to clarify that there  would be a                                                               
discussion regarding concepts and issues.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  explained that  this  would  be a  discussion  of                                                               
reasons for  the need of  the proposed bill and  pertinent issues                                                               
including recidivism, accountability, and monitoring.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked if the witnesses  could reference                                                               
judicial decisions  that also  needed legislative  evaluation and                                                               
review that could be included in the proposed bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:39:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RONALD TAYLOR, Deputy Commissioner,  Office of the Commissioner -                                                               
Anchorage,  Department of  Corrections, responded  to an  earlier                                                               
question   from   Representative   LeDoux  regarding   the   over                                                               
representation of  the Alaska Native  population, 37  percent, in                                                               
the  corrections system.    He noted  that  the African  American                                                               
population  represented  about  10  percent  in  the  corrections                                                               
system.  Directing attention to a  three year study of the Alaska                                                               
recidivism rate, he reported that  this study was the impetus for                                                               
making  changes  within  the  Department   of  Corrections.    He                                                               
reported that there  was a 48 percent recidivism  rate during the                                                               
first year after  release, either for a new crime  or a technical                                                               
violation.  After three years,  there was a 66 percent recidivism                                                               
rate.    He reported  that  only  15  inmates still  remained  in                                                               
custody outside of the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:43:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  if  the  growth  rate  for  inmate                                                               
populations  was due  to population  increase or  an increase  to                                                               
sentences.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR declined to speculate, though  he opined that it was a                                                               
combination of both.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:44:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   asked  if   there  were   any  Alaska                                                               
offenders still incarcerated in the federal system.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR replied  that these  offenders were  included in  the                                                               
aforementioned 15 offenders residing outside Alaska.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:44:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked for  the  percentage  of violent  and  non-                                                               
violent offenses within the recidivism rate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied that only  the overall recidivism  rates were                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:45:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON offered  his understanding  that 58-60  percent of                                                               
recidivism was for non-violent offenses.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL expressed his agreement.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:45:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE  suggested that it  would be helpful  to identify                                                               
the  returning offenders  by gender,  by race,  and by  crime, in                                                               
order to better invest for rehabilitation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR,  in response to  Senator Dyson, pointed out  that the                                                               
figures  he   referred  to  were  for   violent  and  non-violent                                                               
offenses, but  overall recidivism  rates were  not distinguished.                                                               
In  response  to  Senator  McGuire,   he  said  that  these  risk                                                               
assessment  tools had  previously been  used for  classification,                                                               
but were now being used as she had suggested.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:48:02 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR, in  response  to Senator  McGuire,  said that  these                                                               
tools were only used for classification  and had not been used to                                                               
help anyone improve.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE asked  if the recidivism tools could  now be used                                                               
for future analysis.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  expressed  his  agreement.   In  response  to  Chair                                                               
Coghill, he explained that LSI-R  referenced the Level of Service                                                               
Inventory - Revised.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:49:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  stated  that the  Department  of  Corrections  total                                                               
budget for  fiscal year 2014 (FY  14) was $334 million,  of which                                                               
about $5 million was federal funds.   He noted that the projected                                                               
inmate  population was  based on  the  housing use  at the  Goose                                                               
Creek Correctional Center.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:50:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR, in response to  Chair Coghill, stated that the inmate                                                               
housing  at Goose  Creek Correctional  Center was  more expensive                                                               
than it  had been  for housing  in the  Colorado facilities.   He                                                               
went  on  to say  that  current  inmate population  was  slightly                                                               
higher  than  had been  projected  and  going forward,  reflected                                                               
about 7.3  percent growth  in general funding,  with a  3 percent                                                               
population  growth rate.   He  speculated that  there would  be a                                                               
shortage  of  770  beds  for  the inmate  population  in  FY  20,                                                               
equivalent  to an  additional  facility about  half  the size  of                                                               
Goose Creek Correctional Center.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:51:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX, speculating  that  the  policy to  return                                                               
prisoners to  in-state was  not a fiscal  decision, asked  if the                                                               
policy was to have the inmates closer to their families.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR expressed  his agreement  that this  was part  of the                                                               
decision making,  and that  keeping the jobs  in Alaska  was also                                                               
part of the decision.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHIAR  COGHILL reflected  that it  had  not been  an easy  policy                                                               
call, and  that given  the projection for  an increase  to inmate                                                               
populations, it would be necessary  to immediately begin planning                                                               
for  another facility.   He  pointed  out the  importance of  the                                                               
proposed bill in order "to figure out how to do it better."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:53:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT asked  about any  plans to  deal with  the                                                               
increase in inmate population.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR replied  that there were a  combination of approaches,                                                               
which included expansion of  community halfway houses, electronic                                                               
monitoring, and  out of  state contracts.   He declared  that the                                                               
priority was to meet the needs within Alaska.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:54:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  noted that  there  had  been  a slight  decrease  to                                                               
recidivism  rates from  FY 06  to  FY 10.   He  pointed out  that                                                               
adjustments had  been made  in FY  07 with  the addition  of some                                                               
programming,    and   with    technical   assistance    for   the                                                               
classification of  the inmate population.   He directed attention                                                               
to  an  increase for  successful  completion  of parole  and  the                                                               
continuing decrease in the recidivism  rates between FY 10 and FY                                                               
13.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:57:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL asked  if the  decrease in  recidivism was  due to                                                               
fewer  technical   violation  issues   or  an  increase   to  the                                                               
successful completion of programs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR, in response, said that  it was a combination and that                                                               
the  community  was  providing   support  for  those  individuals                                                               
returning to  the community.   In response  to Chair  Coghill, he                                                               
said that  the PACE project  was part  of the success,  though it                                                               
was the prisoner  re-entry initiative program and  its task force                                                               
that had turned  the focus to successful  completion of probation                                                               
and parole.  He lauded  the community and legislative support for                                                               
out-patient participation in expanded programs, as well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:00:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  directed  attention   to  the  department's  mission                                                               
statement  and  reported  that securing  confinement  represented                                                               
approximately 79 percent of the budget.   Only about 4 percent of                                                               
the DOC  budget were  reformative programs,  while 15  percent of                                                               
the budget was  directed to supervised release  and the community                                                               
reintegration program.   He reported  that a  departmental review                                                               
to reduce  recidivism had  focused on  who, what,  and how.   The                                                               
"who" addressed  to whom to  devote time, energy,  and resources;                                                               
"what"  addressed the  needs and  the problems  of offenders  who                                                               
entered the  system; and, "how"  addressed the ways to  deal with                                                               
the problem areas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:02:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR explained  that the  LSI-R  was utilized  as a  risk-                                                               
assessment tool to  identify the risk to re-offend,  and to match                                                               
supervision and  treatment levels with strategies  to produce the                                                               
best correctional outcomes.  He pointed  out that the LSI-R was a                                                               
54 item  risk assessment tool  to review both static  and dynamic                                                               
factors, and to  offer ways to address these needs.   He declared                                                               
that  it was  necessary  to  focus on  the  "essential 8"  needs,                                                               
including  attitudes,  risky  thinking, low  self-control,  anger                                                               
management, and  anti-social behavior.   He noted that  almost 90                                                               
percent of those persons using  electronic monitoring devices had                                                               
peers engaged  in the same  criminal activities.  He  pointed out                                                               
that, as  most inmates had never  had, and did not  understand, a                                                               
healthy  relationship,  it was  necessary  to  teach these.    He                                                               
reported that  DOC would  develop an overall  case plan  for each                                                               
person which  addressed at least four  of the needs, in  order to                                                               
increase the possibility for reducing  recidivism.  He declared a                                                               
need for  each program  to match  each individual,  with positive                                                               
reinforcement and the correct intensity in each program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  noted that,  as  almost  60  percent of  persons  on                                                               
probation  and   parole  were   being  over-classified,   it  was                                                               
necessary to more accurately utilize  the information on the risk                                                               
assessments,  and  not simply  use  it  for classification.    He                                                               
stated  that  programming,  including clinical  assessments,  had                                                               
been increased  to better serve  more individuals.   He described                                                               
the Alaska Native substance abuse programs in Nome and Bethel.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:07:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR,  in response to  Chair Coghill, said  that population                                                               
shifts  created  a  problem  for fulfillment  of  programs.    He                                                               
assured  the committee  that the  DOC  has been  working hard  to                                                               
minimize these movements before programs were completed.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:09:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER asked who administered the clinical assessment.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR,  in response, stated  that there was a  contract with                                                               
Akeela,  and  that an  inmate  was  only  evaluated if  the  risk                                                               
assessment  tool suggested  there  was a  problem with  substance                                                               
abuse.     He  spoke   about  the   aftercare  programs   in  the                                                               
communities,  and,  in  response to  Representative  Millett,  he                                                               
explained that there was a small  wait list, and that the program                                                               
was voluntary.   He  noted that DOC  supported completion  of the                                                               
program  for those  inmates leaving  custody.   He said  that the                                                               
need for  individual institutional  counseling was  determined by                                                               
the LSI-R, and that, as  substance abuse counseling services were                                                               
not available  for 60 -70  percent of the population,  those with                                                               
the highest  risk were  identified for the  program.   He pointed                                                               
out  that  completion of  the  program,  while incarcerated,  was                                                               
voluntary unless there was a court order.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:14:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked   whether  court  orders  requiring                                                               
completion of  the substance abuse programs  during incarceration                                                               
would reduce the rates of recidivism.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  reflected that  court orders  which had  been ignored                                                               
resulted in  further incarceration.   He stated that  an increase                                                               
to motivation for  treatment was optimal, although  a court order                                                               
could be appropriate.   He questioned how it  would be determined                                                               
who   would  require   the   court  order.      In  response   to                                                               
Representative Millett, he  said that he did  not have statistics                                                               
on  the  recidivism  rate  for  court  ordered  versus  voluntary                                                               
program participation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR,  returning to his presentation,  explained that there                                                               
had  been a  14 percent  reduction  in recidivism  for those  who                                                               
completed the  programs, although, in agreement  with a statement                                                               
by Chair Coghill, he acknowledged  that there was still a greater                                                               
than 40 percent  rate for recidivism.  In response  to an earlier                                                               
question by  Chair Coghill regarding  mental health  services, he                                                               
reported  that 42  percent of  the inmate  population had  mental                                                               
disabilities, 27 percent experienced  some severe mental illness,                                                               
and up to  60 percent had possibly suffered a  brain injury prior                                                               
to custody.   He referenced a  new study regarding the  impact of                                                               
the  services for  these mental  health services.   He  explained                                                               
that  the  larger  DOC  facilities  had  supplied  mental  health                                                               
clinicians   to   provide   assessments,   crisis   intervention,                                                               
treatment and relapse planning,  and individual counseling.  Upon                                                               
entry into  the DOC facility,  an inmate was  medically screened,                                                               
and referral  for mental health  screening was offered  if deemed                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:18:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  questioned whether the earlier  reference to brain                                                               
injury included autism and fetal alcohol syndrome.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  expressed  his  agreement.    He  stated  that  both                                                               
psychiatric and  tele-psychiatry services  were available  in the                                                               
facilities.  He  described a program in the  Anchorage area which                                                               
combined  probation  officers  and mental  health  clinicians  to                                                               
provide legal  and clinical supervision for  parolees with severe                                                               
mental disorders  of delusions or  hallucinations.   He discussed                                                               
the   mental  health   courts,  which   involved  mental   health                                                               
clinicians  and probation  officers, as  a voluntary  post-charge                                                               
program for those both in and  out of custody, and an alternative                                                               
to  jail.   It  was  required that  an  individual  agree to  the                                                               
sentencing and  follow all the  treatment recommendations  by the                                                               
court.      Eligibility  for   the   mental   health  court   and                                                               
participation  in  this   program  required  psychotic  disorder,                                                               
serious mental illness, or organic impairment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR, in response to  Chair Coghill, said that this program                                                               
was  for both  behavior  and medication  management.   He  shared                                                               
that, as the  capacity of each case coordinator  was 20-30 cases,                                                               
the program service was currently at its capacity.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR   spoke  about  the   Assess,  Plan,   Identify,  and                                                               
Coordinate  (APIC)  program,  with   its  goal  to  quickly  link                                                               
offenders to community  treatment centers, medication management,                                                               
and housing  to help ensure  access to  benefits and jobs.   This                                                               
program also  offered help with  child care, food,  clothing, and                                                               
transportation.   To qualify, the  person had to  be incarcerated                                                               
at the time of the referral,  and have access to the services for                                                               
90 days prior to release and  60 days after release from custody.                                                               
In  response  to  Representative   Millett,  he  said  there  was                                                               
coordination for  access to benefits with  Indian Health Services                                                               
and the Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:24:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  mentioned that electronic monitoring  allowed inmates                                                               
to serve time outside the facilities.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:24:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BILLY HOUSER,  Programs Administrator, Division of  Probation and                                                               
Parole, Department of Corrections, stated  that he was a programs                                                               
administrator and  a supervisor for the  community jails, halfway                                                               
houses, and electronic  monitoring programs.  He  stated that all                                                               
individuals   having  electronic   monitoring  were   continually                                                               
monitored for alcohol,  with random weekly testing.   He declared                                                               
that  individuals  were  responsible   for  compliance  with  the                                                               
program demands, and  that the recidivism rate  after three years                                                               
was  only  18 percent.    He  said  that,  although there  was  a                                                               
supervision fee, much of it was  often waived, as it was based on                                                               
ability  to  pay.     He  declared  that   required  payment  for                                                               
restitution created a habit for budgeting.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:27:55 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER  explained  that  the  electronic  monitors  measured                                                               
alcohol levels  in the  skin perspiration.   He declared  that 90                                                               
percent  of  inmates  had  substance  abuse  or  alcohol  related                                                               
issues.  From  a risk standpoint, DOC would rather  know what the                                                               
participants were doing,  more than where they were  located.  He                                                               
stated that  the response  time for  a probation  staff to  be on                                                               
site in the  Anchorage area was about two hours.   In response to                                                               
Chair Coghill, he stated that  these currently could only monitor                                                               
for alcohol, not  drugs.  He then  provided information regarding                                                               
the function of  various forms of technology,  declaring that the                                                               
limiting  factor for  advanced function  was battery  size.   The                                                               
electronic  monitor used  cellular technology  from a  home based                                                               
unit,  and would  work in  any community  with cellular  service.                                                               
During  regular work  hours there  was constant  monitoring.   In                                                               
Alaska,  there were  currently 362  individuals being  monitored.                                                               
The difficulty  with remote  locations was  for response  time to                                                               
bring an individual back in control.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:34:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  asked where  the device was  attached and                                                               
who put it on and removed it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER explained that there  was a fiber-optic strap attached                                                               
to the  leg, applied by  DOC staff, and its  unauthorized removal                                                               
was a felony.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:35:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER, in  response to Representative LeDoux,  said that the                                                               
electronic  monitor  was  only removed  upon  completion  of  the                                                               
sentence.   The battery  was changed every  three to  six months,                                                               
and it could be submerged in three feet of water.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:37:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER, in  response to Chair Coghill, stated  that the daily                                                               
cost was  about $12.00 per  day.   He demonstrated a  new device,                                                               
the  Silver  Lite  2,  a  portable breathe  unit  that  took  the                                                               
person's picture,  conducted a portable breathe  test, and logged                                                               
a GPS location for about $9.00 per day.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:38:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  asked about  the daily  cost to  house an                                                               
inmate.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR replied that it was about $147 per day.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:38:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked when the breath  unit was used in place of an                                                               
ankle bracelet.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER explained  that  a participant  with  a "no  alcohol"                                                               
probation  could be  required to  use the  breath unit,  and blow                                                               
into it upon command.  It  could also be used in conjunction with                                                               
the leg  monitor if  there had been  alerts triggered  by alcohol                                                               
other than through consumption.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:39:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked if there were a specific schedule.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER  replied that it  could either be a  specific schedule                                                               
or a random request.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL commented  that, as domestic violence  was often in                                                               
conjunction with alcohol consumption,  it could help resolve some                                                               
problems.  He asked  if DOC had the discretion for  use, or was a                                                               
court order necessary.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER replied that these  monitors could be used entirely at                                                               
the discretion of  DOC during management of one  of its programs.                                                               
If a person was on  probation, without an alcohol condition, then                                                               
a  court  order  would  be  necessary.    He  declared  that  the                                                               
technology was rapidly changing.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:43:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT asked  what  were the  limitations to  its                                                               
use,  and  what  could  its   future  role  become,  in  lieu  of                                                               
incarceration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER reported  that,  in  2007, there  had  been about  68                                                               
people statewide  using the electronic monitoring  program daily,                                                               
while today, there  were about 362 people using the  program.  He                                                               
noted  that there  was  now  a trend  for  more  inmates who  had                                                               
completed a treatment program from  halfway houses to be released                                                               
with electronic monitoring.   He explained that  it was necessary                                                               
for the person to  have a stable place to live and  to have a job                                                               
or the potential for a job in order for a positive outcome.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  asked about the limitations  for expansion                                                               
of the program.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:47:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER listed  funding, technology,  lack  of monitors,  and                                                               
lack of eligible  individuals, as possible limiting  factors.  He                                                               
reported that  some people were  denied for various  reasons, and                                                               
that  a  positive  behavior  and  trust  was  a  necessity.    He                                                               
explained  that  for many  inmates,  it  was necessary  to  learn                                                               
appropriate life skills to model.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR said  that the halfway house  placements had increased                                                               
by  33 percent,  and that  the  new technology  had allowed  more                                                               
inmates  to  be  released  with electronic  monitoring  and  more                                                               
inmates to move into halfway houses.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
11:51:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE addressed  the  shortage of  continuing care  in                                                               
residential substance  abuse treatment programs, and  stated that                                                               
behavioral treatment for addictions was  the only way to stop the                                                               
cycle.  She offered her belief  that it was smart justice to know                                                               
the right  places to put funding.   She suggested the  use of web                                                               
based   communication  technology   with  residential   treatment                                                               
providers for  rural Alaska, so  that post release  could include                                                               
both  monitoring and  interactive  communication  for support  in                                                               
behavior modification.   She opined  that this would allow  for a                                                               
more productive reintegration into society.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:54:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR expressed  his agreement, and noted that  there was an                                                               
increased  need  for  substance   abuse  services,  both  in  the                                                               
community and inside the correctional institutions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:55:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL offered his belief  that the proposed bill intended                                                               
to offer recommendations for sentencing  structure, and allow for                                                               
accountability   with  a   maximum  amount   of  freedom,   while                                                               
maintaining the necessary security.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:56:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON asked if there was pretrial electronic monitoring.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER explained  that there  would be  a pilot  project for                                                               
pre-trial monitoring  of domestic violence offenders,  although a                                                               
court order would be necessary as part of the bail release.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:58:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL,  directing attention to the  technology tools that                                                               
were available  and the  policy questions for  use in  both urban                                                               
and  rural  area,  expressed  his concern  for  any  inequity  in                                                               
application of the  tools.  He declared his  desire for statewide                                                               
use of  the PACE program,  although it would  require monitoring,                                                               
and asked if the PACE program was expandable.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR replied  that the program had  currently been expanded                                                               
into Palmer, and  that Anchorage was also looking to  expand.  He                                                               
stated that it was now in three locations.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER, in  response to Representative Millet,  said that his                                                               
monitoring  program was  currently a  little bit  below capacity,                                                               
noting that  there were about  45 clients per staff  officer, and                                                               
that  more   staff  would   be  necessary   if  there   were  400                                                               
participants.   He explained  that spot  checks, which  would log                                                               
the monitor serial number at  any location, could be conducted on                                                               
a drive by basis without actual contact.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked if  there  would  be a  use  for                                                               
drones.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOUSER replied, "I hope not."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:03:46 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a recess from 12:03 p.m. to 1:29 p.m.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:29:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  brought the  committee back  to order,  and stated                                                               
that the panel would discuss re-entry issues.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:30:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAT   VENTAGEN,   Chief   Clinical  Officer,   Akeela,   provided                                                               
background   information  about   Akeela,  explaining   that  the                                                               
organization  had  started 40  years  ago  as a  substance  abuse                                                               
disorder treatment  program, and  currently offered  44 substance                                                               
abuse and mental health programs  throughout the state along with                                                               
18  contracts with  DOC for  substance abuse  treatment services.                                                               
Referring to  the two maps he  had provided to the  committee, he                                                               
indicated  that these  reflected Akeela's  involvement statewide.                                                               
He pointed out that Akeela  had substance abuse programs with all                                                               
but  one  prison facility,  Ketchikan  Correctional  Center.   He                                                               
reported  that  Akeela had  contracts  with  the community  based                                                               
services in Anchorage, Palmer, Juneau, Kenai, and Fairbanks.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  asked to  clarify that  these were  both voluntary                                                               
and court ordered prescriptive services.   He commented about the                                                               
budgetary  and  statutory   requirements  affecting  programmatic                                                               
delivery.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:34:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN,  in response  to Chair Coghill,  said that  DOC had                                                               
established capacity  numbers for  the programs which  were based                                                               
on an  average length of  stay with  fully staffed programs.   He                                                               
spoke about the difficulties with  fully staffing the programs in                                                               
rural areas.  He pointed out  that, as these were fee for service                                                               
programs, there was  not a charge if a service  was not provided.                                                               
He reported  that the staffing  ratio was 1  to 12.5, for  the 90                                                               
day  programs, and  1 to  48  for the  continuing care  programs,                                                               
which was based  on individual need for three to  six months.  He                                                               
noted that  there was  not a waiting  list, except  in Anchorage,                                                               
for the continuing care programs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:37:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked about  the effect on program success                                                               
for released prisoners  of wait time before being  admitted to an                                                               
outpatient program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VENTAGEN  replied that  currently  there  was not  any  data                                                               
available.     Referencing  those   inmates  who   had  completed                                                               
treatment  programs in  the institutions  and  then attended  the                                                               
community  aftercare programs,  he clarified  that there  was not                                                               
any wait  time except in  the Anchorage  program.  He  offered to                                                               
supply  the  wait  time  for  the  Anchorage  aftercare  program,                                                               
opining that it was  only about a week.  He  pointed out that the                                                               
wait  time for  the Anchorage  treatment program  was about  four                                                               
weeks.   He expressed his  agreement with  Representative Millett                                                               
that  these  wait times  were  crucial.    In response  to  Chair                                                               
Coghill, he  stated that Akeela  also worked with  reentry people                                                               
who were electronically monitored.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR,  in  response  to   Chair  Coghill,  explained  that                                                               
institutional  programs occurred  inside the  facilities, whereas                                                               
the  community   care  component  included  after   care  in  the                                                               
community for those out of  custody, but on probation and parole.                                                               
In  response to  an  earlier question  by Representative  Millett                                                               
regarding  the  wait  time  for   programs  during  re-entry,  he                                                               
explained that  the other  individual needs  were being  met even                                                               
during the interim for substance abuse services.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:42:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VENTAGEN  cited  an August,  2012,  McDowell  Group  report,                                                               
"Economic  Costs  of Alcohol  and  other  Drug Abuse  in  Alaska,                                                               
2012," which  reported $518.7 million  in direct costs  in FY2010                                                               
from alcohol  and drug abuse,  with an additional  $673.2 million                                                               
in productivity costs.   He pointed out that only  $40 million of                                                               
the  direct cost  was spent  for  substance abuse  services.   He                                                               
declared that  Akeela believed that, as  treatment was effective,                                                               
any additional  resources for treatment  and its follow  up would                                                               
reduce the  direct costs.   He noted  that this had  already been                                                               
demonstrated in Texas.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN  offered his understanding  that the need by  DOC of                                                               
community  based  substance  abuse  treatment  in  Anchorage  far                                                               
outweighed the  support available from Akeela  given the existing                                                               
contracts.   He declared that,  as there was already  an overload                                                               
on  the community  programs, Anchorage  could use  more treatment                                                               
resources for those on probation and parole.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:44:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN pointed out that,  as the highest rate of recidivism                                                               
occurred in  the first  year, Akeela focused  on that  first year                                                               
with substance  abuse treatment,  case management  for vocational                                                               
and  educational training  services,  and housing.   He  declared                                                               
these services to be essential, specifically in the first year.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN,  in response  to Representative  Millett, explained                                                               
that there  was not  any evidence  to show a  decrease in  the 92                                                               
percent  rate   for  substance   abuse  in   offenders;  although                                                               
substance abuse  treatment will reduce recidivism,  these need to                                                               
be done in conjunction with  the other reentry services, in order                                                               
to  reduce  costs.    In  response  to  a  further  question,  he                                                               
expressed his  agreement that the  cost for offender  health care                                                               
would also  significantly decrease  when there was  not substance                                                               
abuse.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:49:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELVIN  LEE,   President,  New  Life  Development   Inc.  (NLDI),                                                               
explained  that  NLDI was  a  non-profit  organization which  had                                                               
offered reentry transitional housing  with supportive services to                                                               
people  returning  to  the community  after  incarceration  since                                                               
2008.  He  reported that NLDI currently had housing  for both men                                                               
and women,  with a  total of  48 beds.   He declared  that stable                                                               
housing and  a structured environment  was the key  for community                                                               
reentry.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEE  explained  that,  with  help  from  NLDI,  each  person                                                               
developed  their  own transitional  plan,  and  that NLDI  helped                                                               
maintain  this  structure,  especially for  the  requirements  of                                                               
probation and  parole.  He  spoke about an upcoming  program that                                                               
would help inmates prepare a plan six months prior to release.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked  if this was done in conjunction  with a risk                                                               
assessment tool, and if it was voluntary.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEE  explained  that  the   program  had  been  designed  on                                                               
information obtained  from probation officers so  that "we're not                                                               
operating in  error with anybody.   We  know what DOC  wants, and                                                               
we're doing the  same thing to make sure those  needs are getting                                                               
taken care  of."  In  response to a question  from Representative                                                               
Millett, he explained  that the application process  began in the                                                               
correctional  facilities,   aided  by  the   probation  officers'                                                               
suggestions  for  inmates  who  were ready  to  transition.    He                                                               
relayed that  the average stay with  NLDI was 120 days,  that the                                                               
"drop-out" rate  was highest in the  first 90 days, and  that the                                                               
high structure and demand for  accountability forced a commitment                                                               
from  the inmates.    He  declared that  NLDI  created a  healthy                                                               
environment for  these transitions  to the new  processes outside                                                               
incarceration.  He  reported that, as the  program was voluntary,                                                               
the inmates  would have to  report to their probation  officer if                                                               
they decided to leave the program.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:00:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked  whether Akeela or NLDI  was a faith-                                                               
based organization.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEE said  that NLDI was not faith based  although it endorsed                                                               
many of  the principles.  He  declared that, as behaviors  had to                                                               
change, it was necessary to  embrace whatever means would support                                                               
those changes.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN  replied that Akeela  was not faith based,  and used                                                               
cognitive  behavioral  therapy  and  evidence  based  treatments,                                                               
instead.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:01:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEE,  in response to  Senator Dyson, explained that  the NLDI                                                               
program was designed to assist and  teach people how to live in a                                                               
community outside the correctional facility.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:03:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  inquired as to  the impact  of a felony  record on                                                               
re-entry to the community and its effect on recidivism.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied that  there were  more than  1,600 collateral                                                               
consequences,  or federal,  state, and  local barriers,  to jobs,                                                               
housing,  and employment  faced when  leaving incarceration.   He                                                               
noted  that although  there  were work  groups  studying ways  to                                                               
reduce these barriers, there were many layers to each.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:05:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  asked what  the legislature  could do  in support,                                                               
such as reduce the levels  of certain crimes, or expunge criminal                                                               
records to public access after a specific time.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  expressed his agreement  with these suggestions.   He                                                               
declared  that  support  for  re-entry  had  to  be  embraced  by                                                               
business employers, as well as the state agencies.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  said  that Senate  Judiciary  Standing  Committee                                                               
would review this area.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:07:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT referenced  three things  Mr. Houser  had                                                               
mentioned  for  making  a  difference to  those  getting  out  of                                                               
prison: stable  housing, treatment, and employment.   She offered                                                               
her agreement  to the  need for more  funding for  treatment, and                                                               
asked  what   incentives  could  be  offered   to  employers  and                                                               
landlords  to   give  an  opportunity  to   those  released  from                                                               
incarceration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR   replied  that  DOC  offered   fidelity  bonding  to                                                               
employers, though he was not aware of any housing incentives.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEE  stated that NLDI  encouraged job  development agreements                                                               
with employers, which were more  successful when a stable housing                                                               
situation had been taken arranged.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:09:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MILLETT   asked    about   follow   up   housing                                                               
opportunities  after   leaving  NLDI,  and  if   there  were  any                                                               
incentives.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEE  reported that transitional  housing was  being extended,                                                               
and that NLDI  had agreements with Cook Inlet  Housing and Alaska                                                               
Housing to  create a  housing history which  could be  relayed to                                                               
the next housing provider.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. VENTAGEN shared  that Akeela had transitional  housing for up                                                               
to  two  years in  Ketchikan  and  Anchorage  for those  who  had                                                               
completed treatment and substance abuse  programs.  He noted that                                                               
Akeela  worked closely  with prospective  landlords  to show  the                                                               
ability of those transitioning out to pay rent.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:12:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  for  an  explanation  to  fidelity                                                               
bonding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  explained that  the Department  of Labor  & Workforce                                                               
Development  (DLWD)  offered  bonds,   similar  to  a  guaranteed                                                               
assurity, for ex-felons.  He  allowed that the state assumed some                                                               
responsibility,  and he  offered to  send more  information.   In                                                               
response  to Chair  Coghill, he  expressed his  agreement that  a                                                               
transitional  housing  program  based   on  the  Delancey  Street                                                               
Foundation  model  was  being  offered   by  Cook  Inlet  Region,                                                               
Incorporated (CIRI), as well as other supportive services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:14:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEE stated  that NLDI was working toward  its next component,                                                               
permanent re-entry supportive housing.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:16:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE  said that  Partners for  Progress had  been working                                                               
for  the past  14  years  with both  the  therapeutic courts  and                                                               
housing and re-entry  assistance.  She directed  attention to its                                                               
suggested amendment provided  to the committee on  July 25, 2013,                                                               
which  proposed a  change to  AS 28.35.030(k)  and the  potential                                                               
impact on  electronic monitoring [Included in  members' packets].                                                               
This  would allow  first  time DUI  offenders  to use  electronic                                                               
monitoring in lieu  of a mandatory three day  incarceration.  She                                                               
explained   that   legislation   currently   required   on   site                                                               
supervision.  She declared support  for the effective development                                                               
of electronic  monitoring.  She  listed an estimated  annual cost                                                               
savings to the  state of $860,000, though she  surmised that this                                                               
was  a conservative  estimate.   She stated  that the  recidivism                                                               
rate  after use  of  electronic monitoring  was  only 18  percent                                                               
after three years.   She suggested that first  time DUI offenders                                                               
should  not  be   housed  with  higher  level   offenders.    She                                                               
referenced  research   articles  which  stated   that  electronic                                                               
monitoring  was  the wave  of  the  future.   She  expressed  her                                                               
agreement   with  electronic   monitoring  being   combined  with                                                               
personal  contact.     She  summarized  by   declaring  that  DOC                                                               
maintained up  to date equipment,  and strove to  meet individual                                                               
needs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:22:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT expressed her  concern that elimination of                                                               
incarceration would  send the  wrong message  with regard  to the                                                               
severity  of  the  crime.   She  questioned  the  responses  from                                                               
victim's rights groups and Mothers  Against Drunk Driving (MADD),                                                               
as they  had strongly advocated  for a  "big hammer" for  a first                                                               
time DUI.  She opined that a  first DUI offense should be a "wake                                                               
up call."   She  acknowledged all  of the  reasons listed  by Ms.                                                               
McCabe,  but expressed  her concern  for changing  the sentencing                                                               
guidelines for  DUI offenses.   She  declared her  preference for                                                               
funding to be directed toward a treatment program.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE offered her agreement  with the concerns for DUI, but,                                                               
noting that  second and  third DUI offenders  were allowed  to be                                                               
placed  with electronic  monitoring, she  questioned the  lack of                                                               
consistency for not allowing the  same for a first time offender.                                                               
She declared that this would  continue to send the aforementioned                                                               
shock value message.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:27:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER  advised  that research  had  indicated  that  "shock                                                               
incarceration" was not a good idea,  as the shock was the initial                                                               
arrest, booking,  and court appearance.   He said that  the three                                                               
day  DUI  arrest  was  a  waste of  money.    He  emphasized  the                                                               
necessity for  the DOC  staff to explain  the judicial  and legal                                                               
process, and  the expectations after  completion of  the program,                                                               
as offenders  only heard  the sentencing, and  nothing else.   He                                                               
reported that  much of  the 18 percent  rate of  recidivism after                                                               
use  of electronic  monitors  was due  to  non-completion of  the                                                               
conditions  of probation.    He reiterated  that  the DOC  staff,                                                               
during the briefing  prior to use of  electronic monitors, worked                                                               
to ensure that offenders understood the judicial process.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked for any evidence based statistics.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOUSER referenced  a 2008  study by  the University  of Utah                                                               
which addressed the lack of value for shock incarceration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked  if   Partners  for  Progress  had                                                               
discussed its proposed  amendment with MADD or  other groups with                                                               
a vested interest in the DUI laws.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE replied that she would make those contacts.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  said  that  he  would  invite  testimony  from  a                                                               
representative of MADD.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX expressed  an  interest  in receiving  the                                                               
statistics addressing  drunk driving  arrests in states  that did                                                               
and  did not  have mandatory  jail  sentences.   She offered  her                                                               
belief  that anecdotal  evidence  indicated  that jail  sentences                                                               
were instrumental in decision making.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:32:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCCABE  stated   that  many  other  states   choose  not  to                                                               
incarcerate for misdemeanors.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL,  declaring  the   importance  for  reviewing  the                                                               
aforementioned University  of Utah study,  listed accountability,                                                               
a change  of behavior,  and maintenance of  public safety  as the                                                               
prime concerns before making policy changes.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  opined that  jail  time  could act  as  a                                                               
deterrent to those new to the criminal justice system.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE reflected  that the University of Utah  study would be                                                               
very instructive.   Referring to  the aforementioned  bonding for                                                               
employment, she stated that there had  never been a request for a                                                               
bond  payout.   She  opined  that  the  hirees became  very  good                                                               
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:38:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL MICKELSON reported  that he had been in  law enforcement for                                                               
42 years  with an emphasis  on development and  implementation of                                                               
special  programs,  including  sobriety programs.    He  reported                                                               
that, in 2004,  he began research on driving  felonies related to                                                               
alcohol and  drugs, as  they accounted for  almost 33  percent of                                                               
the  state felonies.    He declared  the need  to  develop a  new                                                               
criminal justice  model to  address this,  which resulted  in the                                                               
development  of  a  24/7 drug  and  alcohol  monitoring  program.                                                               
Since its inception,  there had been 31,000 people  placed in the                                                               
twice  daily alcohol  monitoring program,  with a  resulting 99.2                                                               
percent compliance.  He explained  that 85 percent of the alcohol                                                               
testing was  this twice  daily testing at  a testing  site, which                                                               
offered immediate results.   He declared that  this immediacy had                                                               
changed behavior and  cognitive skills with a  long term positive                                                               
approach to the  criminal justice system.  He said  that the cost                                                               
savings had been significant, about  $248 million, and that there                                                               
was  more than  a 50  percent reduction  in repeat  offenders for                                                               
DUI.   He  noted  that,  as there  had  also  been a  significant                                                               
reduction in  domestic violence, judges  were now using  the 24/7                                                               
sobriety  program for  a variety  of offenses  as a  condition of                                                               
bond,  sentence,  and probation.    He  reported that,  as  South                                                               
Dakota  had DUI  sentencing  guidelines  which required  extended                                                               
times for driver's license suspension,  the 24/7 sobriety program                                                               
had   allowed  for   license  reinstatement   while  successfully                                                               
participating.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MICKELSON   declared  that   the  protocols   and  treatment                                                               
facilities liked  the program  as a  means for  changing behavior                                                               
and lowering the recidivism rates.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM BUTLER,  Colonel, Montana Highway  Patrol, explained  that he                                                               
had been  in Montana law enforcement  for 22 years.   He detailed                                                               
that two Montana troopers were  killed in drunken driving related                                                               
events in  2010, and this had  lead the agency to  review its DUI                                                               
policy.   They studied  the successful  24/7 sobriety  program in                                                               
South Dakota and first initiated it  as a pilot program in select                                                               
counties.  In 2011, the  program was fully implemented statewide,                                                               
which presented a significant shift  in law enforcement approach.                                                               
He declared  that budgetary shortfalls necessitated  a nationwide                                                               
change  for treatment  within the  criminal justice  system.   He                                                               
stated  that alcohol  and/or drugs  were at  the cause  of almost                                                               
every entry into  the criminal justice system.   He declared that                                                               
control  of alcohol  in  the equation  would  allow much  greater                                                               
success.  In a study by  the Rand Corporation, the results of the                                                               
24/7 Sobriety program  in South Dakota had  indicated that repeat                                                               
DUI arrests  were reduced  by 12  percent, and  domestic violence                                                               
arrests were  reduced by 9 percent.   He shared that  Montana was                                                               
working  with the  Rand Corporation  for a  pilot study  of twice                                                               
daily testing in  Yellowstone County.  He declared  that the 24/7                                                               
program  created structure  in a  person's life,  with swift  and                                                               
certain  consequences  for failure  to  the  test, whereas,  this                                                               
benefit  was lost  with electronic  monitoring.   He  anticipated                                                               
that the Yellowstone  County pilot study would  be implemented in                                                               
the next two or three months.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:47:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTLER  relayed that 65  percent of Montana's  population was                                                               
covered by  the 24/7  program, with  almost 350,000  breath tests                                                               
being  administered.   He said  that the  percent of  failure was                                                               
very similar to that of South  Dakota, although there was not yet                                                               
enough data  to analyze  recidivism and its  effects.   He opined                                                               
that the  results would  be the  same in  both Montana  and South                                                               
Dakota  as   there  were  similarities  to   both  geography  and                                                               
population base.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:49:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DENNIS  JOHNSON,  Program  Director, Alaska  Pre-Trial  Services,                                                               
explained  that  his  service   was  a  non-profit  agency  which                                                               
provided  pre-trial electronic  monitoring, as  well as  drug and                                                               
alcohol testing.   He  noted that the  court had  recently stated                                                               
its recognition of the need  for a 24/7 [accountability] program.                                                               
He  reported  that  Alaska Pre-Trial  Services  had  initiated  a                                                               
similar program a year prior to  this, in which they had reviewed                                                               
the  South   Dakota  program   and  its   use  of   the  company,                                                               
Intoximeters, Inc., which provided  the assigning agency with the                                                               
reporting  data for  the twice  daily  testing.   He offered  his                                                               
belief that  proposed SB  64, through  a review  of the  data and                                                               
programs  in  other  states, was  an  incredible  opportunity  to                                                               
address the issue  in statute.  He reported that  his company had                                                               
176 people  statewide on its  pre-trial program.  He  noted that,                                                               
generally,  first time  DUI offenders  were not  referred to  the                                                               
Alaska Pre-Trial  Services program, as  it focused on is  role as                                                               
the  court  appointed third  party  custodians  for more  serious                                                               
offenses.  He  offered his belief that, although  his company had                                                               
not had  more than 50 offenders  enrolled in the 24/7  program at                                                               
any  given time,  the 24/7  program was  a response  to the  high                                                               
number of  violations committed by  offenders while out  on bail.                                                               
He emphasized the need for  "swift, immediate, sure consequences"                                                               
to any violation  of the parole, which could include  a return to                                                               
DOC custody,  and an appearance  before the judge  who originally                                                               
sent  the offender  to the  third  party custodian  program.   He                                                               
expressed his strong support for  the 24/7 program, and explained                                                               
its  use  for  child  custody determinations  by  the  Office  of                                                               
Children's Services (OCS).                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:55:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON,  in response  to Chair  Coghill, explained  that the                                                               
Intoximeters,  Inc.  data  master  and  data  base  provided  the                                                               
evidence in  DUI cases.   He  explained that  the billing  for $5                                                               
each  day  per  offender  included  payment of  $1  each  day  to                                                               
Intoximeters, Inc. to  allow use of its database.   He noted that                                                               
there was an opportunity for the  State of Alaska to purchase the                                                               
data  base for  use with  its departments.   He  reported on  his                                                               
staffing around Alaska, which included  10 officers and 4 support                                                               
staff in  the Anchorage area.   He noted  that the case  load was                                                               
about  40 offenders  per officer.    He clarified  that the  24/7                                                               
program was voluntary, and would  allow for approximately 300-350                                                               
offenders  to  be  kept  out  of  correctional  facilities.    In                                                               
response to Chair Coghill, he  explained that the recidivism rate                                                               
for those who had been in  the program was about 16.5 percent, as                                                               
this  program  included higher  risk  participants.   He  relayed                                                               
that,  as   the  third  party  custodians,   they  had  developed                                                               
protocols   with   the   local  authorities   for   custody   and                                                               
transportation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:01:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS  MOODY,   Deputy  Public  Defender,   Criminal  Division,                                                               
Central Office,  Department of  Administration, noted  that there                                                               
had been  a low  technology system similar  to 24/7  with Village                                                               
Public  Safety Officers  (VPSOs)  in Bethel  more  than 25  years                                                               
prior.   He expressed concern for  the cost to the  offender, and                                                               
he suggested there be a sliding scale of cost.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:04:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER asked whether any  states had moved from a voluntary                                                               
system, and if  there was any effect on the  cost and the success                                                               
of the monitoring program if the state paid for the program.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:05:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BUTLER  replied that, in Montana,  the cost was $2  per test,                                                               
of  which $1  was designated  for the  jurisdiction administering                                                               
the test,  and $1 was paid  to Intoximeters, Inc. for  use of its                                                               
software.  The  average blood alcohol level with a  DUI arrest in                                                               
Montana equated  to 15-16 drinks,  which would cost $12-$25.   He                                                               
declared that the payment of  the 24/7 monitoring program was not                                                               
an issue  for those offenders.   He shared that South  Dakota had                                                               
warned  against providing  the testing  on  credit, opining  that                                                               
offenders provided the  funds in order to keep  themselves out of                                                               
jail.   He noted  that Montana had  previously spent  millions of                                                               
dollars   of  software.     He   emphatically  stated   that  the                                                               
Intoximeters,  Inc. software  had been  excellent, with  no state                                                               
money invested in the system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:08:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  that   Mr.  Moody  address  any                                                               
constitutional  problems with  the proposed  legislation and  the                                                               
aforementioned  proposed  amendment  from Partners  for  Progress                                                               
[Included in members' packets].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:09:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY  LEE,  Tanana  Chiefs Conference  (TCC),  explained  that                                                               
Tanana Chiefs Conference (TCC) was  a non-profit consortium of 42                                                               
Interior  tribes  and  member organizations  with  a  mission  to                                                               
improve  the  health  of  Alaska   Natives  through  medical  and                                                               
behavioral health  services.  She  reported that she was  also an                                                               
Episcopal priest, active in prison  ministry and prison advocacy.                                                               
She  shared that  TCC was  interested  in the  proposed bill,  as                                                               
there  was  a  disproportionate  number  of  incarcerated  Alaska                                                               
Natives,  most of  whom for  substance abuse.   She  declared the                                                               
need of  incentives for change  in order to succeed  in recovery,                                                               
or  recidivism  among native  populations  would  continue.   She                                                               
stated  that  sentencing  reform  was  necessary,  as  statistics                                                               
indicated  that the  punishment for  substance related  crime did                                                               
not  deter  the offender,  and  a  better  approach would  be  to                                                               
address the underlying problem of  substance abuse.  She declared                                                               
that there was  a great need for expanded  treatment and behavior                                                               
health  service.    She  applauded  the  creation  of  an  expert                                                               
commission through the proposed bill,  and she suggested that the                                                               
Alaska Native member be nominated  through a tribal organization,                                                               
as  the  representative  of  a  tribal  entity  would  have  more                                                               
expertise.   She  pointed out  that each  of the  health programs                                                               
needed to consider  substance abuse as an impacting  factor.  She                                                               
concurred with the  suggestion by Senator Dyson that  a member of                                                               
the  commission  be an  individual  who  had been  sentenced  and                                                               
incarcerated  in  Alaska,   in  order  to  give   voice  to  that                                                               
population.   She  suggested this  include  both an  urban and  a                                                               
rural nominee, as each had quite different experiences.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEE said that TCC was  very supportive of the limited license                                                               
opportunity for  those with  successful adherence  to therapeutic                                                               
court, as the program could  provide incentive to offenders.  She                                                               
emphasized that TCC  was excited with proposed SB 64  and what it                                                               
represented as the first step on a large scale.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEE  directed attention to  the 24/7 program,  and questioned                                                               
its effectiveness in  rural villages.  She  expressed concern for                                                               
false positives, a lack of  holding facilities, and the speed for                                                               
a response  given the  remoteness of many  villages.   She opined                                                               
that  any  the  reforms  needed to  address  the  possibility  of                                                               
partnerships  with  Native  organizations  for  solutions.    She                                                               
explained  that  many  communities conducted  sentencing  circles                                                               
where community members and the offender  met in a circle and the                                                               
individual  was told  how their  conduct impacted  the community.                                                               
She declared  that this had  proven to be a  successful, low-cost                                                               
effective approach.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEE  noted a  concern for the  lack of  information regarding                                                               
undiagnosed  Fetal Alcohol  Syndrome (FAS)  among offenders,  and                                                               
questioned   whether  this   should  have   any  impact   on  the                                                               
sentencing.    She  pointed  out that  the  Centers  for  Disease                                                               
Control  and   Prevention  (CDC)  had   successfully  implemented                                                               
telemedicine in rural villages, and  she suggested this should be                                                               
considered in  judicial decision making.   She reported  that the                                                               
Housing  First   program  had  been  successful   with  providing                                                               
permanent  housing for  homeless,  chronic  inebriates, and  this                                                               
same philosophy could be applied  for offenders.  The precept was                                                               
that the provision of permanent,  stable housing created a stable                                                               
base for work on other issues.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEE  concluded  by  pointing out  that  TCC  was  constantly                                                               
reviewing   approaches  for   creating   meaningful  change   and                                                               
improvement  to  the  way  justice  was  served  and  lives  were                                                               
improved,  as this  should  be the  end goal.    She shared  that                                                               
transformation  for an  individual  could transform  a family,  a                                                               
village, and "perhaps even a state."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:17:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  expressed his  agreement with  her summary  of the                                                               
issues.  He relayed that,  although he struggled with some tribal                                                               
authority issues,  local accountability was the  "highest premium                                                               
you can  get."  He declared  his commitment to making  this work,                                                               
and  reiterated  that accountability  was  the  way to  make  the                                                               
programs  succeed.   He  opined  that  the 24/7  program  offered                                                               
accountability,  which  could  lead  to positive  results  for  a                                                               
decrease  in domestic  violence, wellness  in the  community, and                                                               
greater family togetherness.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:19:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG,  referring to  page 3,  line 2,  of the                                                               
proposed bill, asked for clarification  to the suggested changes.                                                               
He asked  Ms. Lee for her  suggestions in order for  the state to                                                               
avoid  any "crossfire  of various  people in  the various  Native                                                               
communities."  He asked that  any suggestions be forwarded to the                                                               
Senate Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  acknowledged  that  he  was  also  searching  for                                                               
language to this amendment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  reiterated his earlier question  to Mr.                                                               
Moody, that Mr. Moody addresses  any constitutional problems with                                                               
the   proposed  legislation   and  the   aforementioned  proposed                                                               
amendment from Partners for Progress.   He declared his desire to                                                               
avoid any last minute adjustments.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  shared that Legislative Legal  Services had stated                                                               
that this content was within constitutional boundaries.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked to  see any legal memos addressing                                                               
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL declared that  constitutionality was a "touchstone"                                                               
for any draft to a bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:21:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY  replied  that  he  did  not  see  any  constitutional                                                               
problems with the  proposed bill or any of  the proposed changes,                                                               
as currently written.   He noted that PACE was  a similar program                                                               
type, and it did not pose any problems.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:22:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG noted  that there  was not  language in                                                               
the bill  that he, as an  attorney, would like to  have included.                                                               
He  referred  to  the language  on  page  4,  lines  8 -  9,  and                                                               
suggested  that  the  commission   also  consider  any  published                                                               
appellate decisions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  suggested that,  as the  Department of  Law should                                                               
also be involved with this language,  it would be best to work on                                                               
these details in  committee.  He declared that  the proposed bill                                                               
would still  have amendments,  and that the  budget for  the 24/7                                                               
and the PACE program would still need to be discussed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:25:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR said  that  the  DOC was  excited  about the  reentry                                                               
efforts and the  development of the partnerships,  all working to                                                               
move "our  system in a  positive direction."   He stated  that he                                                               
was  looking forward  to building  a strong  re-entry program  to                                                               
ensure  that those  people released  from  custody be  successful                                                               
when leaving  incarceration.  He  declared that the 24/7  and the                                                               
PACE programs were tools for staff  to use to help ensure success                                                               
for people upon their release from custody.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:27:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  summarized that the  suggestions for  the proposed                                                               
bill were now  on the table, and he intended  to incorporate many                                                               
of  these and  introduce a  committee substitute.   He  suggested                                                               
that the House Judiciary Standing  Committee could either wait to                                                               
see the Senate version, or work on its own version.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER asked  that Chair  Coghill  consider another  joint                                                               
meeting  of the  committees  to evaluate  any proposed  committee                                                               
substitutes.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL offered  his belief that the 24/7  program "was one                                                               
of the  best things that  we can do to  roll forward."   He noted                                                               
that other tools could also  be available, and other issues could                                                               
also be addressed in the proposed bill.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTLER offered  to  participate in  future  meetings and  he                                                               
invited any  members of  the joint committee  to come  review the                                                               
program  in  person,  offering  his belief  that  this  would  be                                                               
beneficial.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MICKELSON expressed his concurrence  and he also extended the                                                               
same invitation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL expressed his desire  for evidence based input, and                                                               
noted that he would accept both their offers for help.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:31:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business, the joint meeting of the House                                                                 
Judiciary Standing Committee and Senate Judiciary Standing                                                                      
Committee was adjourned at 3:31 p.m.                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 64 PowerPoint Presentation 11 4 13.pptx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
RecidivismRates.pdf SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
Joint Judiciary Agenda1.docx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
DOC Usage of Electronic Monitoring.docx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
SB 64 FINAL Sponsor Statement Revised 10 30 13 (3).docx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
For Calendar Year 2012.docx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
PACE vs Regular Probation.docx SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
How DOC Allocates Resources.pdf SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
SB 64
Prison Population vs. Prison Capacity.PNG SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
SB 64
What Other States Are Doing.pdf SJUD 11/4/2013 9:30:00 AM
SB 64